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                        <title>RE: M31 - Andromeda New Years Image</title>
                        <link>https://vtastro.org/community/images/m31-andromeda-new-years-image/#post-785</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2024 22:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[While the first one looks more &quot;natural&quot; the remake has more pop without being over processed.  I too like them both though I find the 2nd more aesthetically pleasing.
A very minor observat...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the first one looks more "natural" the remake has more pop without being over processed.  I too like them both though I find the 2nd more aesthetically pleasing.</p>
<p>A very minor observation involves the 2 reddish stars to the upper right that was not immediately noticeable.  There seems to be a slight darkening of the background with a slightly reddish halo around them.  Looks like some kind of processing artifact that only affects those 2 stars.  If I look very carefully I do see the same thing on the other bright stars.  On the first image I can see a very faint reddish halo, maybe do to a little bit of haze in the sky at the time.  Looks like a large scale contrast enhancement was applied that makes the galaxy stand out from the background better but which also "enhanced" the slight halo around the very brightest star.  Maybe the saturation before stretching contributed to this.  Maybe a little less saturation before stretching and additional saturation after.  Just a thought. Sometimes I have found things like doing stretching in multiple steps comes out a little better than doing it in one step.</p>
<p>Still a great image!</p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://vtastro.org/community/images/">Images</category>                        <dc:creator>Paul Walker</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: M31 - Andromeda New Years Image</title>
                        <link>https://vtastro.org/community/images/m31-andromeda-new-years-image/#post-784</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2024 18:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Thanks Michele.]]></description>
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<p>@terri Wow -I think they both look amazing - one maybe more natural but I'd be hard pressed to pick. Inspiring!</p>
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<p>Thanks Michele.</p>
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						                            <category domain="https://vtastro.org/community/images/">Images</category>                        <dc:creator>Terri Zittritsch</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: M31 - Andromeda New Years Image</title>
                        <link>https://vtastro.org/community/images/m31-andromeda-new-years-image/#post-783</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2024 18:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@terri I think the detail in the spiral arms/dust lanes is definitely more apparent, Terri!  I also think the Ha areas stand out much more prominently, especially those on the periphery.  Ni...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@terri I think the detail in the spiral arms/dust lanes is definitely more apparent, Terri!  I also think the Ha areas stand out much more prominently, especially those on the periphery.  Nice!</p>
<p>Greg</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: M31 - Andromeda New Years Image</title>
                        <link>https://vtastro.org/community/images/m31-andromeda-new-years-image/#post-782</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2024 18:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@terri Wow -I think they both look amazing - one maybe more natural but I&#039;d be hard pressed to pick. Inspiring!]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[@terri Wow -I think they both look amazing - one maybe more natural but I'd be hard pressed to pick. Inspiring!]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://vtastro.org/community/images/">Images</category>                        <dc:creator>Michele Bayliss</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: M31 - Andromeda New Years Image</title>
                        <link>https://vtastro.org/community/images/m31-andromeda-new-years-image/#post-781</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2024 18:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Thanks Greg, I didn&#039;t realize I ended up with more detail, but I did want to get the color maybe more neutral and less muddy.   I&#039;ll take the detail though!
 
T]]></description>
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<p>@terri I think you made an improvement, Terri!  I liked your original one, but I can see more detail in the reprocessed image with the increased luminance.  Nice job bringing out the extra detail.  :-)</p>
<p>Greg</p>
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<p>Thanks Greg, I didn't realize I ended up with more detail, but I did want to get the color maybe more neutral and less muddy.   I'll take the detail though!</p>
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<p>T</p>
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						                            <category domain="https://vtastro.org/community/images/">Images</category>                        <dc:creator>Terri Zittritsch</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: M31 - Andromeda New Years Image</title>
                        <link>https://vtastro.org/community/images/m31-andromeda-new-years-image/#post-780</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2024 18:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@terri I think you made an improvement, Terri!  I liked your original one, but I can see more detail in the reprocessed image with the increased luminance.  Nice job bringing out the extra d...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@terri I think you made an improvement, Terri!  I liked your original one, but I can see more detail in the reprocessed image with the increased luminance.  Nice job bringing out the extra detail.  :-)</p>
<p>Greg</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: M31 - Andromeda New Years Image</title>
                        <link>https://vtastro.org/community/images/m31-andromeda-new-years-image/#post-779</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2024 17:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s an update to my image.  I wanted natural colors so no color painting here, but didn&#039;t believe the chocolate color natural.   So I searched for a processing solution and found one on c...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here's an update to my image.  I wanted natural colors so no color painting here, but didn't believe the chocolate color natural.   So I searched for a processing solution and found one on cloudy nights.   In this case I did saturation before stretching and stretched less.   Does it work better?    I could have upped the saturation more like some images, but kept it mostly as stretched, in fact did not saturate after stretching..   too much, too little?</p>
<p>One more thing I did, is combine my L with RGB in the LAB space.   So I replaced the L in the LAB created from RGB, with my luminance data.</p>
<p>I can clearly use more data to get the far outskirts in my luminance a little better... next year.   </p>
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						                            <category domain="https://vtastro.org/community/images/">Images</category>                        <dc:creator>Terri Zittritsch</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: M31 - Andromeda New Years Image</title>
                        <link>https://vtastro.org/community/images/m31-andromeda-new-years-image/#post-778</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2024 17:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@pwalker Thank you Paul.. didn&#039;t see a notification.   Maybe you&#039;ll not like my next version.   I didn&#039;t believe the muddy color real and reprocessed it entirely and saturated my image befor...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@pwalker Thank you Paul.. didn't see a notification.   Maybe you'll not like my next version.   I didn't believe the muddy color real and reprocessed it entirely and saturated my image before stretching.  This held on to much  more color.</p>
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                        <title>RE: M31 - Andromeda New Years Image</title>
                        <link>https://vtastro.org/community/images/m31-andromeda-new-years-image/#post-777</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jan 2024 23:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Yes, nicely done.  I&#039;m a fan of the more natural, more subdued look for galaxies as well.  I&#039;m amazed that you could retain the cores of all 3 galaxies as star-like and not compromise the ce...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, nicely done.  I'm a fan of the more natural, more subdued look for galaxies as well.  I'm amazed that you could retain the cores of all 3 galaxies as star-like and not compromise the central regions.</p>
<p>I'm curious what a slightly darker background would look like.  I know, at least with my DSLR images, it's hard to retain a nice gradation with a darker background.  Though that may mostly be due to not having more that 2-3 hours of data and using a broadband LP filter.</p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://vtastro.org/community/images/">Images</category>                        <dc:creator>Paul Walker</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: M31 - Andromeda New Years Image</title>
                        <link>https://vtastro.org/community/images/m31-andromeda-new-years-image/#post-776</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jan 2024 21:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@greg-erianne Thanks Greg!  I&#039;ve noticed that the most popular M31s on astrobin are painted in color.    I guess that&#039;s a style i can&#039;t get used to.
 
Terri]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@greg-erianne Thanks Greg!  I've noticed that the most popular M31s on astrobin are painted in color.    I guess that's a style i can't get used to.</p>
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<p>Terri</p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://vtastro.org/community/images/">Images</category>                        <dc:creator>Terri Zittritsch</dc:creator>
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